17 abril 2009

Grande Luis D'Elía (Ovalpo más que nunca)

Qué maravilloso que Luis D'Elía se haya cargado intelectualmente al mercenario Jorge Lanata y a la ama de casa gorda y pro golpista, Fernando Peña.

Lanata me da asco. Manipuló la entrevista tratando de acorralar a D'Elía, no le preguntó nada a Peña y, lo peor, cuando D'Elía le explicó lo evidente, la culpa y la responsabilidad de la oligarquía sobre la inseguridad, no reparó en ello y apuntó al menor. Acusándolo porque odiaba. La basura gorda antes mentía que era de izquierda. "Hubiera querido un tipo de diálogo distinto", dijo, y yo agrego, en el que un negro no nos cogiera de semejante manera.

"Salvajes", dijo Peña de D'Elía y su gente, colocándose de un lugar histórico-político claro, aunque escondieran todo el tiempo la mano detrás del subrayado constante del odio expresado por este cuando era evidente la intentona golpista de mediados del año pasado. La misma que volteó a Alfonsín y de ahí para atrás, a todos los demás.

Peña no le quiso dar la mano -le negó el saludo- pero repitió que D'Elía odiaba.

Cuando el profesor opinó que la inseguridad se soluciona con amor, inclusión... el pavo con la cabeza tatuada lo interrumpió recordándole que él odiaba y era un incoherente por ello. "El odio al mal es una forma de amor", le dijo D'Elía.

En cada argumento del compañero Luis, Peña trataba de descolocarlo y no pudo. No le dió la mano pero el ridículo después quería que el otro lo mirara a los ojos. Lo insultó, volvió a maltratarle al hijo, trató de que tuviera un discurso xenófobo, lo difamó e intentó que le pegara. Nada de eso sucedió.

En cada bravuconada de los imbéciles, D'Elía contestaba y ellos se perdían. Dos veces Peña dijo que no podía seguir.

Fueron dos pseudo intelectuales que comieron, vistieron, consumieron, viajaron, fueron a hospitales bien, etcétera, desde su nacimiento. No pudieron con un villero. "Yo no tengo nada contra los negros, tengo un sobrino mulato", dijo Peña. (Todo bien, yo tengo un amigo negro.) Pero a la vez gritaba que los quería fuera del sistema político.

Los dos cobardes intentaron apedrearlo todo el tiempo, escondiendo bien la mano. D'Elía dio la cara como siempre, y esos son los políticos que yo quiero. Chúpenla, y no del modo que les gusta.

69 comentarios:

marisol de ambrosio dijo...

Viste... yo pensé exactamente lo mismo.
Me dio mucha verguenza ajena el sorete mal cagado de Peña y esas caras de ignorante. Delía lo mató solamente con la postura.
Y el gordo Lanata... sin palabras.

Che tu blog es muy bueno, capaz te lo dije antes pero te lo repito.

saludos

Anónimo dijo...

Etoy de acuerdo en casi todo. Sí, Peña no pudo argumentar nada y le pasaron el trapo. Lanata, deplorable, tirando para el lado de Peña...cuando deberia ser neutro en el debate y abogar por una equidad que estuvo ausente. Ahora, Delia salio bien porque se enfrento a dos perejiles, si se pone a debatir con cualquier persona comun que camina por la calle, esta lo da vuelta en 1 minunto

Eduardo Real dijo...

Cuando veo quiénes lo odian al gordo D'Elía, más lo veo como un grosso. Les pasó la plancha. Y el pelotudo que la juega de "transgresor" es un módico escandalizador de tías viejas. Aunque ya ni éso provoca. A mí sólo me causa náuseas. Él y el Oso Sinforoso. Náuseas.

LocaComoTuMadre dijo...

No vi el programa, si mi vieja y me comentò tal cual lo describìs vos, lo mal y nervioso que quedò Peña, Lanata arrugó y D'Elìa quedò re bien parado, los abrochò a los dos juntos...

Anónimo dijo...

Pena me da el personaje que adoptó hace mucho tiempo Luisito. Pena me da que siga instalando el odio y el resentimiento y una falsa lucha entre clases. Qué pasó Luisito que antes lo admirabas a Peña y después pasaste a odiarlo tanto?. Tanto cambió el homo?. O cambiaste vos, apoyando el desquicio, la intolerancia, la ruptura de una armonía social que te asegura solamente a vos un bienestar. Acaso seguís diciendo que éste es el mejor gobierno de los últimos "sesenta años", descalificando el de Perón, y después te decís peronista y hablás de Evita? Estás totalmente descentrado, la izquierda o la derecha te sirven siempre para tus intereses mezquinos. Ya das lástima, Luis Angel D'Elía, pasarás a la historia como el más despreciado...

Ulises Dumond dijo...

1. Gracias, compañera ambalivabal.

2. Anónimo 11.08, D'Elía no es un intelectual, pero es una persona con una cultura que te sorprendería. En la calle no estaría nervioso y de seguro aprovecharía todos los huecos argumentales que le dejaron esos dos miserables. Cuando les decía que la forma de incluir a los menor es con amor ellos se preocupaban por recordarle que él odiaba. Por eso después aparecen bobos, como el Anónimo de las 3.30 que piensan que D'Elía "instala el odio y el resentimiento" justo cuando Susana Giménez pide que los maten a todos. Y dice que le da pena. A mi pena me dan los bobos que lo único que leyeron es el videograf de TN.

Unknown dijo...

espero que luisito haya ido abrigado

Anónimo dijo...

Che Ulises "Dumond", estás tratando de utilizar el pseudónimo de "Ulises Dumont" o en tu ciega defensa de lo indefendible leés u oís lo que te indican tus patrones?
Mirá que hay otra realidad,eh? la Argentina está constituída por aquel llamado crisol de razas, donde todos deberíamos estar contenidos en base al respeto, la igualdad de oportunidades, la defensa de las instituciones y la construcción conjunta y mancomunada de una sociedad más justa. Pero no, vos estás del lado de la defensa irrestricta de la irracionalidad, la confrontación y el cisma. Te disculpo hermano, y te comento, no leí ningún videograph de TN. Tratá de no descalificar a los que no son obsecuentes como vos.

Aguilucho dijo...

Que alguno me explique que es la "irracionalidad" que se le achaca a d elia y al gobierno

Ulises Dumond dijo...

Los anónimos pelotudos se superan minuto a minuto.
No estoy tratando de utilizar el seudónimo que vos decís, estoy tratando de cogerme otra vez a tu hermana, anónimo bobo.
Mis patrones, precisamente, hablan las mismas boludeces que vos. Con los mismos lugares comunes, y las mismas ignorancias. Si nunca leiste un videograf de TN no sé de dónde las habrás sacado.
Che, no te vaya a arniar (herniar) luchando por esa sociedad justa que verseás y por la igualdad de oportunidades, eh.
Los bobos como este siempre presumen de la inocencia de ubicar en primer lugar bobadas como el respeto y después, mucho después, adornan con una sociedad más justa.
Chupamelá vos también, salame, que tu viehja ya tiene los labios paspados, y metete la disculpa en orto. Obsecuente de la pija, sos vos.
Hace doscientos años que existe el cisma del que hablás, y yo no estaba para promoverlo. Sí había cómplices cornudos como vos con el discurso de la panza llena... Dale, gritá, "¡nos van a matar a todos!"
Bobo.

Anónimo dijo...

Che soy el primer anonimo (11:08) pero como me chupa un huevo sacarme una "cuenta blogger" llamame Marta, o HERMETICA en su defecto. Yo no cuestiono la intelectualidad de D'elia, solo me parecian exagerado ciertos dichos que estuve leyendo, no en tu blog precisamente pero si en otros con la misma linea. Y a lo que me referia es que todos uds, o sea todos los que militan en partidos politicos, o apoyan a un partido incondicionalmente cuando es bastanta estupido pensar que un partido pueda representarte totalmente, subestiman mucho a la gente y no me refiero precisamente a los anesteciados que hacen marchas o salen con una cacerola o hacen un piquete, sino al tipo que esta, al diarero, el pibe que se toma una cerveza en la plaza. Convesando con varios ves que si bien hay de todo, desde el maten a todos al, aguante cristi o aguante patti (si hasta eso ois) te das cuenta que hay muchos que no se la creen. No se creen el discurso politico de ningun partido y esos tipos son los que D'Elia no puede correr, esos tipos son los que se pudren al abrir el clarin y un boludo, que supuestamente es periodista, te muestre una hoja blanca y escriba "lo que estamos viendo es una hoja blanca" y bue. Quise acabar con el monopolio Clarin de mi hogar,empece la busqueda de un nuevo diario. NO ENCONTRE ni un puto diario objetivo. Ni la nacion, ni pagina 12, ni critica, ni perfil, ni cronica, ni diario popular, ni la prensa y otros mas que ni vale la pena mencionarlos. Ni un puto diario objetivo, asique: agarrense su propio diario grupo Clarin y metanselo en el culo (todos los demas hagan lo mismo). El unico noticiero que veo para no cagarme de risa es vison 7 internacional, interesante. Despues si con TN me rio un rato con c5n otro tanto pero Cronica es lo mas. Ah che todos los diarios no son una mierda la parte de la "chica popular" de diario popular zafa, jajaja nah, voy a quedar como un misogino machista.
El otro dia vi hablar a Moreno y lo unico que escuche fue Beeeee Beeeee. Hay muchos pastores, tenemos a los amigos del pj, los dinos de la ucr, los ladris del pro, los descerebrados de la CC, los contradictorios del MST, los impresentables del PO...muchos pastores, muchos rebaños lastima que no haya HOMBRES que PIENSEN LIBREMENTE POR SI MISMOS. De vuelta a los partidos vos podes apoyar aun partido politico pero no creo que apoyes TODAS sus propuestas es imposible "Es imposible" como diria el buen peronista de capu. Seguramente habra diferentes partidos con porpuestas que apoyes y otra en las cuales disientas. En fin mi mente esta farmacologicamente adormecida solo escribi para que me bardees porque me sentia excluido, integremos no derivemos cuack. Por lo pronto voy a ir a votar con mi Remera de "Victimas del vaciamiento" Hermetica 1994 a ver si avivo Giles JAJAJAJAJA que ingenuo "politiquenado un dr de la ley gano lugar con solo prometer carnes asadas convido al pueblo quien dio su voto creyendo que poseia sensibilidad social que umpliria sin aflojar con sus discursos pre electorales con los que tejio su fraude
En un avion se llevo el dineral a donde nadie sabe seguro de que pronto lo olvidaran y podra postularse otra ves nuevamente
fue el groso el toco que pego al rajar amasijando la capital el desvalije esta latente lo sabe hasta el presidente
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LA MUERTE ES OCULTAR LA VERDAD EL VACIO ES DEJARSE MENTIR en un avion se llevo el dineral y VOLVERA POR MAS CUANDO LO OLVIDES.
JA hubiera querido poder escribir algo mas coherente pero ya sabes, lo farmacos, tuve que volcar de una lo que salia de la cabeza.

Ulises Dumond dijo...

Amigo Marta -11.08-, yo no me voy a hacer cargo de los demás blogs -ya demasiado tengo con este e incluso con que esto se llame blog -y no Anotador o Cueva o Cafetín-, y no poder hacer nada. Viste eso de los medios de producción y sus dueños y la prepotencia cultural, etc...
A D'Elía lo respeto por trayectoria, por procedencia, por prepotencia y por negro orgulloso. Me gustaría que no renegara de su piqueterismo, pero bueno, todo no se puede.

Querés que te bardee, pero no encuentro argumento, esto no es Vení que te bardeo, acá se bardea con sinceridad y sentimiento. Lo que quiero decir es que no te aprecio menos porque no te bardeo.
Si hasta estamos de acuerdo con Hermética y en lo que diferimos no me parece que sea propio de una mala leche sino de un desconocimiento. Por ejemplo, la ilusión de que puede existir un diario independiente.
No me refiero sólo a que es imposible prescindir de ideologia, sino porque desde su fundación, el periodismo está al servicio de algo: una idea, un plan, un proyecto, un egoísmo...
El que te hable de periodismo independiente o es muy ignorante o te quiere cagar.

La segunda cosa es que, quizás te desilusiones, pero no milito en ningún partido. Ningún partido me da un peso, ni ninguna secta me capturó prometiéndome el paraíso. Sólo creo que cada país merece ser soberano y por eso soy nacional -no digo nacionalista a la luz de la carga que ya acarrea ese término-. También creo que la organización interna tiene que ser absolutamente inclusiva y por eso soy popular.
Imaginate si habré manggiado, después de doscientos años -con las honrosas e incompletas excepciones que sabemos- de predominio de la contra. ¿O vos creés que somos "tercer mundo" o "subdesarrollados" por azar o por las inclemencias del tiempo?
Es necesario, después de doscientos años de oligarquía cipaya y vendepatria, tratar de intervenir de alguna manera.
No me enorgullezco de no pertenecer, ni militar, ni trabajar en política partidaria. (Ni siquiera voté a Kirchner porque lo eligió a Scioli de vice.)
Y ahora veo que te podría haber bardeado por tu criterio de que ningún partido te representa completamente y por ello no podés estar en ningún lado.
Eso es muy fácil y tonto a la vez, pero lo entiendo porque sé que todo está preparado para que participar en política cada vez sea más restringido. Con ese criterio ni esposa podrías tener. Y esa es la idea, sabés lo desesperado y desorientado que se encuentra uno que no puede apoyarse ni en una familia...

En fin, esto se convirtió en un diálogo de anestesiados que no va a ningún lado. Dejo acá y te aconsejo que no vayas a votar con una remera de Iorio porque en éstas épocas de guerra te van a acusar de antisemita.

Y no te preocupes de la coherencia, que eso también es orden que impone el imperio o la academia regente o la medicina vigilante o la psicología orientadora de consumo y demás chanchadas.

(Esto, por su extensión, es un anti comentario de blog, pero es al pedo pedir disculpas porque el que llegó hasta acá, no es lector de blogs.)

Saludo.

Anónimo dijo...

Lo que es el liberalismo! Se juntan un puto pelotudo, un negro de mierda y un gordo garca...Se tienen que morir los tres HDP

Anónimo dijo...

Alienado ulises "dumond": soy el anónimo de las 9.06 PM. Veo que tu limitada capacidad de discusión se manifiesta en tus brillantes adjetivos y respuestas a mis palabras. Hacer mención a mi hermana, que no tengo, a mi madre, fallecida hace veinte años, a cuestiones ofensivas que escapan a la discusión verdadera, demuestran que tus argumentos son tan falsos e inexistentes como la "lucha" de tu patroncito matancero. Por eso vos y tu descendencia van a estar siempre en el mismo lugar, pero con una diferencia: siempre van a ser más despreciados pero no por la condición que uds se autoimponen, sino por la falta de apertura a ilustrarse y entender que hay otras realidades, no sólo la de uds. Que Dios te ayude, primate ateo. Y es la última vez que escribo aquí por la escasa intelectualidad de algunos de los sumisos seguidores del amito negro, que no tienen pensamiento propio, sino que siguen su "escuela": ofensa, descalificación, humillación, prepotencia (en patota no?).

Ulises Dumond dijo...

Pará, pará, no te vayas... ¿no me das una chupadita, antes?
Lamento lo de tu madre, que se haya muerto hace 20 años, pero no te olvides de agradecerle la originalidad que te legó, porque hijos de puta hay un montón, pero huérfanos de puta hay que buscar, eh...
Yo se que vas a volver a leer esto. Si tenés que explicar lo que significa cada cosa es que tenés la consistencia intelectual de un tomate. ¿Por eso decís fallecda en lugar de muerta y cosas por el estilo? Sos un garca hijo de puta que piensa que les tiene que dar lugar a los demás porque se siente bueno, sorete. Y te puteo porque no reniego de neustro idioma popular, ni de lo que soy, vos sí, y por eso en lugar de decir "Negros de mierda" -como la tapa de la Barcelona que sale mañana- decís cosas como "la condición que se autoimponen", lo único que te falta es decir "a estos negros no les gusta trabajar".
Asíque, no te vayas, antes chupamela un poquito. Y decime dónde está tu santa madre enterrada que voy a ver si me la chupa ella también. Salame.

Aguilucho dijo...

Che, te dijo ateo.

toni. dijo...

jajjaa.. los comentarios de Aguilucho en este blog son mundiales!
"primate ateo" jaj que tipo gil.

Unknown dijo...

che, ulises, tirá un telefono de alguna hermana o vieja de anónimo, no comás solo...

catalina dijo...

ulices, la verdad es que me parecen los 3 protagonistas del programa( que no vi porque no consumo tv CAJABOBA) son unos idiotas.
lanata habla habla y ya aburrio del diario y la tv, de la tv a la radio no lo soporta nadie mas.
peña que haga lo que sabe o mejor qur o haga nada, q no se meta a defender sus supuestos derechos como oligarca q es
y d´elia es un gordo sin verguenza, seguramente millonario como los otros, ladron, corrupto, cinico y muchas cosas mas, ordinario e ignorante.
encima nombro a su abuelo como un fundador de la fora! si fuera asi, el abuelo se levantaria de la muerte y al ver a su nieto, se vuelve a morir

viva la fora-.

Ulises Dumond dijo...

Sí, Catalina, sí, seguí sentada bajo el laurel. Estamos en un 75 por ciento de acuerdo, más el plus de que también coincido con que ¡viva la FORA! pero si tuvieras alguna certeza o algo que respalde lo de D'Elía sería todo mejor y yo no pensaría que sos casi igual a los otros zapallos que hablan acá. Es muy fácil decirle seguramente ladrón, seguramente cínico, seguramente sin vergüenza... la política está desprestigiada por hijos de puta como Peña y Lanata, pero sobre todo por la repetición descerebrada de idiotas que dan por sentado esas estupideces. Vos también debés creer en la pandemia de fiebre porcina y en que ello es culpa de los mexicanos. Es todo muy barato así. La política es para participar. Me gusta tu nombre. Ulises es con ese. Saludos.

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Anónimo dijo...

"Pero no, vos estás del lado de la defensa irrestricta de la irracionalidad, la confrontación y el cisma."

-anonimo.

ahhhh bueenooooooo. contate otro. 2 perejiles lo tratan de basurear a delia en una "entrevista", pero el que tiene odio es el?? la verdad delia me cae muy bien, pero me parece que algun dia, solo por una cuestion experimental, se deberia quedar callado a ver que dicen los otros, ya que tanto lo tratan de negro irracional que confronta desde el pedestal de las conchudas soberbias o algo asi.

¿que pasaria? lo amarian como a cobos? ¿solo dirian que es un negro que odia a todo? pero eso lo dijeron siempre. ¿cual seria la historia oficial? ¿diran que delia era otro negro cualquiera que se vende por un choripan? tal en ese momento los ciudadanos-esponja dejen de odiarlo para decir que era otro boludo del monton, sin ninguna importancia. seria interesante ver el cambio de discurso.

para un mayor efecto deberia hacerlo un sabado al mediodia asi sale en los diarios del domingo como la super noticia del dia. (igual, guarda que tendria que competir con otras notas como "el nuevo lenguaje de los adolescentes", asi que por ahi la jugada sale mal).

igual despues el dia siguiente deberia pasarles el trapo de nuevo y ver como todo el mensaje de los medios vuelve a cambiar, al igual que la opinion "publica".

seria una linda historia para contar mientras se almuerza un choripan bien nac&pop.

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